Cameron:There’s nothing gays hate more than when people treat us like women. We’re not. We don’t want to go to your baby shower. We don’t have a time of the month. We don’t love pink.
Mitchell: You love pink.
Cameron: No, pink loves me.
I had mixed emotions about this past week’s episode of Modern Family… I don’t think gay men are women or should be treated like them, but the attitude about women was practically sneering, as if, again, there’s nothing lower than being a woman.
I think you missed the point of that episode. It’s not that gay men look down on women so they don’t want to be treated like them but they are gay men which is a different classification than a woman.
Mainstream society don’t know yet what real life gay men are like so they like to lump them with a group that they are comfortable with which are women.
The show was just pointing out that gay men are not women but a new classification that is not quite understood yet but mainstream society.
I get it. I’ve been around lots of people that aren’t straight and/or white my entire adult life and am aware of many of the issues regarding perception. I just think there was a lot of face-screwing and other signs of acting as if being a woman was bad… Which is, to be completely honest, one of the issues. There is often misogyny among gays — even by those who proclaim themselves “Marys” and are female BFFs.
PS And show me where/how people are comfortable with women?
“PS And show me where/how people are comfortable with women?”
Wow, are you really comparing the discrimination that gays go through and women?
That’s not even close.
Do girls get bullied/beat up in high school just because they are girls? Is it illegal for women to marry?
Seems like you’re grasping at straws and trying to pick a fight to show your “feminism cred”.
LOL I don’t need to prove myself or “show my feminism cred.” Nor am I trying to pick a fight.
I also don’t think any war of “Who has it worse,” be it between gays, women, races, etc. does anyone any good; the point is to achieve true equality for all. But, for the record…
Yes, it is illegal for two women to marry. Even though that’s not what you meant, your phrasing is poor and one could argue your word choice was specific to make a (sexist) point. In any case, I’ve clearly stood on the side of the rights for any consenting adults to marry, i.e. gay marriage rights, in many posts/writings and actions, including letters to representatives and exercising my right to vote. ‘Nuf said about that.
However, were you aware that in many states, and other countries, the rights of women in marriage (and divorce) are less than those of men?
To answer your other question, yes, women and girls — straight and gay — do get bullied, beaten and raped in school and elsewhere just because of their gender.
Women also have the government controlling their bodies, limiting care and rights, extending into other areas of their lives and livelihood. Those are some pretty basic functions.
The bottom line of this post of mine is that I felt the episode erred in making its point because it often did so at the expense of women. I don’t think that’s the best way to achieve equality.